THIS IS FINDON VILLAGE — these
Findon Chronicles are created by Valerie Martin and contain scenes from her home
village of Findon,
West Sussex, U.K. Everyday stories about real people.
A PEEK INTO THE PERSONAL DIARY OF JOHN MARGESSON (1794 - 1866)
(Uncle of Colonel William George Margesson — the Lord of the Manor of Findon).......
I first heard from Edd Thomas in January 2010 and it was not until the New Year 2011 that I received another email from him....
"Dear
Valerie....Happy New Year to you. Several months back I wrote to you to say I
had a diary from Mr John Margesson of Offington from 1831 which references
Findon. I'm have finished reading the diary and have been slowly
doing some research about him but thought I'd send you the sections which refer
to Findon and the surrounding villages. The diary mostly deals with life in
London where he lived and finally France and Spain where he moved back to, but
there are several times he revisits his ancestral home (which I've attached).
To put the diary into perspective, and reading between the lines, John was a
shy, principled and very well educated gent whose family as you know had been
major land holders in the Offington/ Findon area for many years. Sent off to
Harrow at an early age he went to Cambridge University before being involved in
a Libel case (which he alludes to) forcing him to go into excile overseas for 10
years. During this time he lived in Madrid and the diary begins with him
returning to Offington shortly after his return to England (aged 38). The diary
is extremely down to earth and although he shows signs of arrogance in some of
his writing, he seems very open to the bitter fact that as a gentleman of
leisure he has never amounted to much (despite high up connections and
friendships).
The diary was later annotated by the writers nephew William George Margesson
while living at Findon manor in 1901 (see pictures). For sure the paintings you
show on your website of the findon huntsman of 1831 must have been owned and
annotated by William at this time as only the diary contains the extract. Also
the photo you have of the ancestoral paintings in Findon Manor is interesting as
John refers to many members of his family getting their portraits down (so could
be the same paitings!). I've included the notes on the front piece of the diary
to show William remained very bitter towards his Uncle (over the dismissal of
his french governess in 1832) even 70 years after the event!!
I hope you find the extracts useful for your website and if you hear from
descendants of the Margesson family who'd like to read more let me know as there
are lots of other interesting details and observations. Also (I'm sure you are
aware) that Colonel William Margesson's diaries from 1866-98 are in the Sussex
archives and may well contain references to life at Findon Manor. I'd like to
look at them sometime myself to see if they talk about John Margessons final
days with William looking after him.
Best Wishes ... Edd"
I could immediately see that John Margesson certainly did much walking and his diary entries made my legs feel quite weary. His private writings give much insight into the every day rural life of a gentleman of our area in the 1830s when William IV was on the throne.
Many of the names will be familiar to all .... including Lyons Farm (site of Sainsburys), Jack Paskins the Findon Huntsman, Castle Goring etc. and we can all imagine this gentleman on his rambles all those years ago....
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Diary of John Margesson of
Offington 1831-2
As I descended I met our old
shepherd George Baker, who seemed glad to see me. The larks sang merrily, as if
to welcome me;- but I almost fancied their melody ill-timed. I could
have asked the useless and foolish question- “how can all nature seem happy,
when i am oppressed with care?” A greater misfortune can hardly be conceived
than to return to the place of one’s birth, - after long years of absence- alone
and like an exile. In the evening I walked up
Offington hill:- as soon as it became dark I heard
a melancholy cry of the Curlew;- the partridges also were calling, and the
sensations I felt were soothing and pleasant.- At 2 a.m. I took a swim in the
sea at Worthing:- I went in a machine, and
was made almost sick by the unpleasant notion of the vehicle. August 9 Tuesday
1832
In the evening I walked again in the Furze-field at Offington. I remarked that the fine young trees, planted with my own hand, had been lopped and pruned in the most savage manner. The old Elms at the back of Offington have also been shorn of their honours. The cawing of the rooks in the wood revived the memory of early days; these birds have much decreased in numbers- the rabbits have, on the other hand, increased in the furze-field.
I walked on Offington hill again in the evening; the sun set bright. I sate down on the hill, and saw the sheep feeding below me. The scene was delightful, as it revived a hundred recollections. I walked down to Broadwater with David Baker, son of George. On Broadwater green I met Harwood our old coachman, who spoke with much feeling of our family misfortunes. He related some anecdotes that distressed me- Thomas Bowles our old gardener, who lived upwards of 40 years in our family, has been sent to the parish poor-house. William Cave, also our gardener, and subsequently gardener to the new family, has been turned off by the present proprietor, after 40 years service on the estate. I regretted my inability to relieve the distress of these ancient domestics of my family:- but can do no more. I remember these men as long as I remember my own name.
In the evening I drove in a fly
to Offington, and walked up
the hill. I talked to the Shepherds about the vineyards on the hill belonging to
the Offington estate.
The ridges of earth are visible, and the name still survives. I gazed on the
scene around me with a feeling of intense enjoyment. - the fairy dreams of my
early days seemed returned. A hare ran rapidly past me and looked at my
presence:- however of the animal could have guessed the state of my
feelings, she would not have felt alarmed at such an enemy. The evening
was lovely. As I returned towards Worthing, I met
Lucy, Sam Harwood’s wife, looking remarkably well. She was my nurse 30 years
ago. Her daughter was with her - now a fine young woman:- the last
time I saw her she was an infant. In the afternoon I left Worthing
for Clapham, and took up my residence at the
“Coach and Horses”, close to Mr Stanhope’s. After this I followed a new road
to the village, by the back of the “Gun Inn”, and
returned through the street, and over the downs by another path, to
Clapham.
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"Thanks Valerie for the info. I must admit there is something intriguing about reading one man's thoughts from so long ago. His description of your local area is quite touching really and I'm sure had things been different he would have happily been lord of the manor. He spent alot of time in London with someone called Dewar and I didn't know if this was nickname for De La Warr or soemone else? Best .....Edd"
FROM GERALD in Lincoln..... "Dear Valerie, the diary
with it's description of hearing a Curlew, are they still heard in Findon I
heard them in 1951 at Thorney Island, but don't recall
hearing them anywhere else. Very interesting , that despite being wealthy ,
the author walked , and walked.....and seldom seemed to take any transport.
It really is a good window on Sussex ......Gerald"
No Curlews to be found in the Findon environs now, Gerald. Many of the old species have vanished.
PENNY in Ontario emails.....
"Dear Valerie, That was an interesting
read - as you said he must have walked miles and almost every day.!
I had to look up the plants mentioned and found that one was a red flowering
currant and the other was a Judas tree. His spelling was off a bit for
those.
Bye for now, Penny"
FROM PETER HUGGINS in Ontario...."Dear Valerie, Just read your posting of the diary entries of John Margesson and like other respondents found them to be a delightfull with all the still familiar place names.
Having grown up in the shadow of Castle Goring I was most amused at his description of it as a "preposterous house". In my dotage I tend to agree with his assessment however as a small child it was at once both a magical and scary place to play in and around. Cheers Peter G. Huggins."
FROM JOHN TROTTER in Brisbane, Australia ...."Hi
Valerie .......I was interested to read in John Margesson's diary that he
dined with Mr Henty of Tarring who was soon to leave England for the Swan
River Colony.
This would be Mr Thomas Henty who had dispatched a few of his sons to the
colony a couple of years before and followed them himself with the rest of the
family in 1831. The link below has a brief history of the family that may be
of interest. (I was unable to copy and paste it for some reason).
http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/merino/1775th.htm
The Henty family were very important in the settlement of the Colony of
Victoria and the merino sheep which they took with them were the foundation of
the huge sheep industry. They say that Australia rode upon the sheep's back
for 100 years.
Best wishes, John".
Continue if you would like to read about The Margesson Family of Findon Place.
This is Findon Village — www.findonvillage.com is a continually growing record created by Valerie Martin exclusively for documenting life in Findon and beyond.
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