THIS IS FINDON
VILLAGE — www.findonvillage.com
created by Valerie Martin, contains scenes from her home village of Findon, West
Sussex, U.K.
THE CANADIANS IN
FINDON
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Churchill tanks and their crews lined up
on the Sussex Downs awaiting a royal inspection during the war. Don't they
look grand. The question is, which part of the Sussex Downs?
Martin Mace of the Historic Military Press in Storrington thinks that
these tanks are early Mark variants and appear to be from the 14th
Canadian Tank Battalion — the Calgary Regiment.
The Churchills are probably
from the same unit as the surviving tank that was later recovered above
Storrington — and the remains of which can still be seen near the
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Copyright
Valerie Martin 2000
During the Second World War,
Findon became the training ground for many troops, principally the
Canadians. The year 1941 brought with it the invasion of
Russia by
Germany. By the autumn, and the defence of the Sussex coast was largely in the hands of the 1st
Canadian Army.
Between 4,000 and 5,000 soldiers from the North
Nova Scotia Highlanders, Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry Highlanders were stationed
in the Findon area.
The 2nd Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders were at Cissbury Park
in tented accommodation and also in the ground floor of the house at Cissbury. Others were at Park House.
They were here for the shore defence on the
coast.
In July 2001 I had a chat with Danny Fearny who lives in Cross
Lane in Findon. He was in the regular army and did not live in Findon during
wartime. He remembers being brought to Cissbury Ring for training for just
one day only during the Second World War. There are two tracks winding up to
the summit of Cissbury. The lower is a prehistoric track and the
upper is what I
call the Tank Road because it was constructed during the Second World War to
get the tanks to the summit.
Danny remembers his unit using the Tank Road for practicing at
being ambushed by the Germans. The Canadian Army in Findon were the
ones pretending to be the Germans for this particular exercise! Apparently
there were tanks buzzing around and dummy ammunition being fired......it
doesn't seem possible now to me when it is so tranquil. Just one of my
little stories, I am sharing with you.
At the mansion of Muntham Court, the house and gardens were
mainly left untouched but the 2nd Gordon Highlanders took over the grounds. Here they camped in the
surrounding woodland and built Nissen-huts and cookhouses. The soldiers
wore kilts and lined up in the front of Muntham Court every morning and played
their bagpies (so Colonel Ulric Oliver Thynne's step grand daughter tells me).
Night exercises were often held on the South Downs Training Area. The
Highlanders were constantly engaged in route marches, range practice, wireless
training and mine clearing exercises. I am told that their presence did much harm to the
surrounding countryside. Although I am told by Penny Charteris, now living
in South Africa, the
granddaughter of Colonel Ulric Oliver Thynne, that the children at the "big house" of Muntham were
delighted when the soldiers lined up at the front of the mansion and played
their bagpipes.
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His Majesty, King George VI inspects Canadian Ordnance troops
accompanied by Major General Roberts and General McNaughton in war torn Britain.
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The Findon downland was transformed into a military training
ground by the Canadians and heavy vehicles caused devastation. Most of the outlying cottages,
including all the buildings at
Cobden Farm were destroyed beyond repair.
Gunfire and the screech and clatter of tank tracks became familiar sounds in
Findon. Hilltops and farms, once isolated and havens of peace and
tranquillity, were pounded day and night by all manner of artillery and small
arms as training gained intensity for the men.
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Canadian Engineers use modern American machinery to complete the
Dunsfold airstrip for the Royal Canadian Air Force in record time in wartime
Britain.
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Three of the chalets originally erected by
Emma Shroeter at Pony Farm were
also taken over by the Canadians when they were manning gun emplacements nearby.
The Canadian battery at Pony Farm fired out
to the English Channel and the immense roar of their practice salvoes
shook the whole of Findon at noon on Saturdays.
Another battery was situated on the site of
Edwin Douglas' house at Fox Down. The shells literally screamed
inland over the Findon towards the "battlefields" between Black Patch and
the Storrington Downs
The lonely expanse of downland (with only a
few farm dwellings to break its isolation), made an ideal training ground
for tanks covering infantry attacks on feigned enemy positions.
Two farms, (one at the foot of Black Patch,
the other Lee Farm), lent added realism to the house-to-house and street
fighting. The former was completely destroyed; only its foundations
were in evidence after the war to now "mark the spot".
When the infantry, (with tank support),
launched these full-scale operations, the Fox Down provided a protective
screen by firing north-west over the village, laying a barrage in front of
the advancing army! In carrying out the "scorched earth"
technique, the flame-throwing tanks blasted their way through the copses,
searing the blockhouses hidden among them.
Does anyone know why Canada Barn to the
east of Cissbury Ring is so-called? Peter Archbold has a theory.....
21st May 2003.
Dear Valerie,
My cousin Michael has just alerted me to "This is Findon"
- and I'm finding it fascinating.
We both spent many happy hours on or round the Ring in
the '40s. Mike then lived in Findon Valley.
I suppose it's too obvious, but I always thought that
"Canada Barn" was so called because the Canadian Army used that area for
training, certainly pre Dieppe. (1942) I left Worthing in 1944 and
my recollection is that the Canadians did not come back to the Findon
area for training after 1942. But I may well be wrong . It was
sixty years ago!
Thank you for creating such an excellent record - which I
have only just started to look through! - and which evokes so many happy
memories.
With best wishes, Peter Archbold.
Peter Archbold, Ashburton, South
Island, New Zealand.
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I am afraid Peter's theory has been dashed — although it was
an excellent one. When I looked at a map dated 1875, there it was as plain
as anything — "Canada Barn".
Unfortunately my map does not stretch out as far as Canada Bottom so I do not
know if it is so named or not in that year.
Therefore these places could not have been named after the Canadians in
the Second World War.
We will have to try again for a solution. A
number of Findonians did go to live in Canada in the nineteenth century because
of lack of work in the village — I can not help wondering if the answer lies
somewhere there, but I can not quite see the connection.
Another interesting suggestion has been that Canada Barn could have
been a sort of staging point for the immigrants leaving Findon for a new life in
the 1830s? Well, it's an
interesting thought ― but rather a long way from the village, but who knows.
21st Mary 2003.
Dear Valerie,
Canada (Goose)
Barn
The only other wild guess I can come up with - totally unsupported - is
that, in the 1890's the area
might have been home to a flock of Canada
geese. It could possibly have been a suitable environment in
those days. But not really a serious suggestion!
.......
Best wishes, Peter.
Peter Archbold,
Ashburton, South Island, New Zealand.
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You may not be as wrong as you think, Peter.
There used to be geese (not Canada geese though) kept on Nepcote Green earlier in the twentieth century
when the Wattle House was occupied.
The relationship between a great many of the
Canadian troops during the Second World War and the lassies of Findon is now something that is perhaps some
of the Findon men would like to forget. Most of the married men whose marriages were
affected while they were abroad fighting Hitler's troops, have now past on.
It is difficult to imagine wartime
Findon. The late Tony Hammond was a schoolboy at the time and he recalled
before he died that there were hardly any men left in the community between the age of
eighteen and forty and news from those abroad was scarce. There were
hardly any luxuries, few sweets and no entertainment for the lonely girls left
behind. Suddenly young men in uniform with fascinating accents
descended on the village and filled the Gun Inn. Soon there were dances
being arranged, free film shows in the Village Hall and sweets for all the
children. Life was looking up.
The more adventurous ladies visited
Windlesham House, north of Findon on the A24, (Windlesham House School having
been evacuated to Glastonbury), on a Saturday night where they
indulged in good music, lots of free drink and the company of an unlimited
supply of desirable young men. Needless to say, the remaining menfolk in
Findon did not take too kindly to the presence of the
brash and exuberant
Canadians, there was much jealousy between them.
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13th May
2004.
Hi Valerie,
I love your site – I
came across it by accident as I was looking for information on
Windlesham House School during the war-time years.
I attended Windlesham as
a pupil and left in 1985 however when I was there I had an inkling as to
what became of the house during the war years – I discovered a buried
stash of unused blank bullets whilst playing with a metal detector on a
rise overlooking the games pitches. There were also a number of foxholes
overgrown with brambles overlooking the school.
Anyway, just thought I’d
drop you a line to let you know!
Sincerely,
Tom Hedges
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In addition to Windlesham being the home of the RCSI, it was
also the headquarters of the Department of Petroleum Warfare. During their stay
at Windlesham, the Canadian engineers built a small number of pillboxes on the
South Downs. Two of the ones sited on Highden Hill were of a most
interesting construction. Another example of a Canadian built pillbox can
be seen on Lee Farm. Tony Hammond wondered if the pupils at Windlesham School
have discovered the wall art (graffiti) in their loft, apparently there are
poems and names left by the Canadians. Yes, they were found by the
groundsman during the winter of 2005/6.
The following I think is a touching story from
wartime Findon. This is of an interesting find many years later was at a
property in Nepcote named Little Nepcote (previously known as The Hollies before
the war). When Mr. and Mrs McKenzie-Johnson purchased the house they
discovered a love letter dated 1942. It had been written by a Canadian
soldier stationed in Findon during the war. The McKenzie-Johnson's house
during the hostilities had been occupied by the Canadian forces.
Sweet Caporal was a name that brought a grin to
any schoolboy's face in wartime Findon. Not because it was a top brand of
cigarettes that the Canadians handed out by the barrow load but on the back
of each packet were conveniently printed highly prized aircraft silhouettes.
Most of the Allied and Axis military aircraft were featured and these images
were eagerly sought
by Findon children. They were carefully cut out and saved to form a
collection of "fag cards", or
used as swaps.
The simple joy that that those aircraft illustrations brought
to war torn Findon could not compare with the sheer excitement of watching our
Canadian cousins displaying their wood chopping skills. On one occasion
they put on a magnificent display during a wartime "sports day" meeting at the
Worthing Football Club in Woodside Road. Nothing had been witnessed
like it before and, of course, the Findon children went to watch the lumberjacks
as gigantic trees were swiftly climbed and their tops duly lopped. Massive pieces
of trunk were quickly sawn in half and large axes wielded with great strength transformed large pieces of
timber into mere matchwood in the twinkling of an eye. For the
Findon schoolboys who had watched nothing more hectic than a session of Sussex
trug making in the past, this was the stuff that heroes were made of.
This wartime photograph of bren gun carriers is of the
Canadian army on the move through an English village at some time between 1939
and 1945. The scene was originally forwarded to me by Glen McClean in Ottawa wondering if it could
be Findon. In May 2002
he wrote to me again and suggested the road might be in Alfriston.
Martin Mace of the Historic Military Press in Storrington was
definite that the location of this shot is Alfriston in East Sussex
— but none of my scouts seemed to know for sure.
For once and for all, at last, all is now
revealed in the following e-mail......
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6th December 2002.
Dear Valerie.
I enjoyed your web site of Findon Village.
But sorry to say your picture of the Brengun Carriers in
Alfriston is not correct. The picture is in Shere Surrey and is taken
from a high bank in the garden of the house on the left of
the photo.
The troops could be Canadians, but before them, around
this time we had the 1st Armoured Div Northhants Yeomanry with Guy
armoured cars 1940. Then the 8th Armoured Div based in Cranleigh with
Cruiser tanks 1941 (GO), And then it was the 3rd Field Royal Canadian
Artillery based on the North Downs 1941/42 until there move in to Sussex.
Also I have lots of pictures, letters, and information
on the building of Dunsfold Airfield.
ALBERT CARTER
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12th January 2003.
Dear Valerie.
Called in at Shere this morning with my digital vidio camera.
Could not get into the garden or on the wall to take a
comparison photo, also a parked land rover was hiding the porch........
Albert E. Carter, Albury, Nr. Shere,
Surrey,
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I will leave the last word to
Aimé Martin....
| 8th October 2004
Bonjour Mde Valérie.
I just found your SITE. It is a masterpiece. Keep going, i will
aiways read you.
I spend 4 years in England during the war We were statin all around
Worthing, Littlehampton,Angmering, Goring-by-sea.
I was with a French Canadien Unit Royal 22 nd Régiment. We moved to
Seaford, before we went to invaded Italy.
We were their 2 years.I was in love with your contry.
With your SITE I can see all the plases i was station. I found the
Mulberry(Pub) Were we used to go for a good beer.
I'm 84 years old.I hope to read you for somstime.
Aimé Martin. Québec, Canada.
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THIS IS FINDON VILLAGE — was launched
by Valerie Martin in January 1999 and will grow to be a historical record of life in Findon, West Sussex, U.K.