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JACK LONG'S MUNTHAM
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The East Front of Muntham Court in 1911 — six years before Jack's first employment on the estate. |
Copyright Valerie Martin 2000
Jack Long is remembered as one of Findon's personalities from the past. He was born in Findon in the year 1897 and he died one hundred years later in 1997.
He was the one person of our time who actually recalled seeing the old Findon Windmill standing to the north east of the village, high on the hillside above the racing gallops. Jack could relate how around 1903, when a boy of about 6 years old, he had witnessed the disused windmill gradually being demolished. He also remembered beer being carried up Stable Lane from the Gun Inn to the thirsty workmen during the hard work of demolition.
I have discovered that the Findon Windmill had been standing derelict since the last recorded occupier, Edward Weller, in 1891. He was a Hailsham man and was the last miller to hold the post. After his tenure the mill was a forlorn sight on the hillside, overlooking the valley and directly in view of Muntham Court. It is wondered if the Thynne family grew tired of seeing the dejected industrial site on the hillside opposite their mansion. I believe that they may have considered it a blot on the landscape and this could have been the reason for its ultimate demolition. A windmill abandoned to the elements in those days would not have been considered such a romantic view as today.
The Long family eventually moved from Findon to live in Pulborough when Jack was in his teens.
At the outbreak of the First World War I understand that the staff at Muntham Court had been greatly depleted. Even Colonel Ulric Oliver Thynne was due to leave his Findon mansion; he had been promoted and commanded the Royal Yeoman Infantry.
Smoking is frowned on today but members of the Findon Football Club actually held a Smoking Concert at the Gun in the Square in 1914. The tables at the inn were adorned with numerous elegant silver cups won by their president, Colonel Ulric Oliver Thynne.. I can't help wondering how the present company could see them through the haze ! This esteemed gentleman had won the cups at polo and point-to-point competitions.
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The Gurd family's home. East Lodge to Muntham Court on the A24 in the winter of 1960. This photograph shows the original East Lodge — it has since been demolished and replaced by a house of different design. Original photograph by John Pelling. |
One Saturday in 1917 I am told that Jack Long returned to Findon for a brief visit to take out a village girl he had set his sights on. During the outing he called at the
Gun Inn in the Square with Harry John Gurd (born 1st April 1881) who was a valet and chauffeur employed on the Muntham Estate and was also in charge of the electric generator and water pump and lived at the East Lodge (owned by the Colonel), opposite North End.Harry was the son of Ebenezer and Elizabeth Gurd
who lived at Tisbury Wiltshire at the time of his birth. He had been
one of twins but his brother, John, died in April 1881. By 1901,
Harry was working as an agricultural labourer in Broadchalk, Wiltshire and did
not come to Findon until c.1901/3 when he married Alice Tugwell, a Findon girl
in 1903.
It was while they were supping their pints
that Harry ventured to suggest to Jack that he could also work at Muntham. It
was to be a turning point in Jack's career and the beginning of many memorable
years on the Muntham Estate.
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The Stable Block and Lighthouse in the grounds of Muntham Court. |
Jack Long duly arrived at Muntham the next day, Sunday, to be interviewed by Mr. Sutton, the Muntham Farm Manager, and was promptly offered the position of cowman. Jack dared to speak up and tell the manager that there was also his father, mother and his brother, Harry, to find employment for before he could finally accept. A suitable job was then found for his father, who eventually became a shepherd. Mr. Sutton promised that something could be put Harry's way later.
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The Drive, Muntham, pre 1912 |
This is how the Long family arrived back in Findon and settled in one of the Muntham Farm cottages. Jack started work as a cowhand, with the added incentive of the prospect of also breaking in a few horses. His varied duties involved driving a horse and cart to Worthing to collect the coke and also coal to stoke the boiler at Muntham Court. Another task was to collect wood for the Well House sawmill on the downs behind the mansion. This timber was cut and eventually stored in the cellars of the "big house".
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The Crown Gardens in their hey-day at the East Front of Muntham Court. |
Mr. Sutton was as good as his word. It was not long before Jack's brother, Harry, was employed as a gardener in the large ornamental grounds at Muntham Court. (Later in life, Harry became a shepherd and lived in Elder Cottage at Nepcote).
Twelve months or so on, Jack joined the army and left Findon once more. His friend, Harry John Gurd from Muntham's East Lodge served in the military as a Private in the 15th Veterinary Hospital, Army Veterinary Corps and later also a Private in the 695th Agricultural Coy. Labour Corps and spent time in Salonica and a year in Malta. He was one of the Findon men destined to not return. He died in Worthing Hospital on 25th June 1918 aged thirty-six. From the Worthing Gazette of 10th July 1918:-
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A soldier`s philosophy.
Going to Salonica he spent much time there and a whole year at Malta. He leaves a young wife and family. It is pointed out that the words he used when enlisting have a pathetic significance now — "we can't go on being as we were, when things are not as they have been."
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![]() Photograph by Pam Stepney. |
Harry is buried in the churchyard of St. John the Baptist. (His wife lived until she was 70 and died in July 1953).
Following the cessation of hostilities, Muntham slowly began to return to normality. Jack duly arrived back in Findon and found work, this time at Gallops Farm on the other side of the hillside and within view of Muntham. As a sideline he continued to break in any horses required for the Colonel across the valley.
During Jack’s period in the army, a herd of pedigree cows had been installed at one of the Muntham Farms. It later became one of his tasks to take the cattle to and from Worthing Railway station when they attended shows.
In the early twenties Jack received his marching orders from the Muntham Estate after an unfortunate argument with the Colonel's agent. With utter dismay, the Long family had to vacate their Muntham cottage. Jack's mother then rented one of the small dilapidated Mill Cottages close to the old windmill site, (ironically also owned by Colonel Thynne at the time). The row of cottages may have been on a beautiful downland site, but were hardly spacious. Alas, their bits and pieces of furniture would not fit into the new abode. Taking the initiative they resorted to obtaining permission to store some items in a loose box. This was at Findon Place, once the Manor of Findon — on the left-hand side of the lane leading to St. John the Baptist Church. This was how the Long family came to settle into their new abode within sight of Chanctonbury Ring on the windswept hillside overlooking the Muntham Estate.
The Mill Cottages were a disgrace and in a state of terrible disrepair by 1926 and the owner, (the formidable Colonel), was ordered to carry out renovations. Controversy was caused when he blankly refused to do so. The scenario that followed was reported in the press at the time and readers wrote in to say they had no idea that a windmill had existed in Findon until then. (Many of the Mill Cottages were uninhabited by the Second World War and afterwards they were finally demolished).
I understand that one of the first residents to move into the newly built council estate in Findon in the 1920s was Jack Long and his young wife Emma. Their garden was always well tended over the years with many flowers in bloom. Jack had a comparatively big garden that was full of vegetables with not a thing out of place or a weed in view.
The outbreak of the Second World War heralded the beginning of the end for the Muntham Estate. The mansion's staff was again sadly depleted and reduced to a cook, lady's maid, butler and various dailies who came in from Findon and valiantly struggled to keep the household going. Troops overran the grounds and the mansion was never to recover to its former glory.
It took a while, but the Colonel eventually relented and Jack gained part-time employment back on the estate, just a couple of days work here and there. This was mainly at threshing time, and again to break in that odd special horse or two as required by the Colonel.
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The old Stable Block at Muntham Court — just prior to demolition in 1972. |
Because of this last skill, he was still the holder of a key to the Muntham stables. Unfortunately, on one momentous visit he arrived to feed the horses only to encounter the foreman from
Cobden Farm face to face. The foreman demanded the stable key be handed over to him. A heated argument followed between the two men that resulted in Jack throwing the key on the ground and telling the foreman what he could to do with it.Thus, Jack Long departed from employment with the Colonel for the second time, and forever.
Jack lived at 14 Old Council Cottages near the Fire Station in Findon (opened in 1965), until he was 99 years old. He then moved to a nursing home in Worthing. He died in his 101st year — after getting his telegram from the Queen and having a party in Findon on his one hundredth birthday.
Continue if you would like to read about the Colonel's wife.....Marjory
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